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An interview with Dr. Damon, Pres. the Ngh

Cal: Hello everybody, this is Cal Banyan. Hello, good afternoon, good evening, whenever and wherever you are. Thank you for calling to live and Thanks for listening to the recording of conduct program professionals. We bring some of the biggest names in the profession, to give you free seminars about hypnosis. I am so happy to have all of you here today and especially pleased to have our guest. The meeting of the program benefits can be found on www.hypnosis.org where we organize information for you hypnosis.

I want to introduce one of our most special guests we've ever, ever had on the program, I would like to introduce Dr. Dwight Damon, who is certainly one of my heroes and mentors in the profession of hypnotism. Mr. Damon has been a powerful source of positive change, not only in the profession of hypnotism, but also in his community and now in the world. He served his country as a U.S. Coast Guard, he was a member of several fraternal organizations, humanitarian, he was recognized by many of these organizations and the United States government as a leader. I saw his office and many, many of his awards he has collected over the years.

As the founder and leader of the Guild of Hypnotists Nation, Mr. Damon has methodically built a hypnosis and hypnotism in a separate profession respectable. Mr. Damon spent half a century amassing a workforce of nearly a thousand hypnotists and be a leading force in the establishment of useful standards and ethics professional. The driving force behind providing an opportunity for professional hypnotists join the Union AFLCIL hypnotist and he has created two professional publications and a consumer magazine of hypnosis. Publications profession is the Hypno-Gram and the Journal of Hypnotism and the publication of consumer hypnosis Today Magazine

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As President of the NGH it ensure the holding of the annual conference for members each year and NGH this is only a partial list of accomplishments in hypnotism that reached. There was also a success in the entertainment industry and Gosh, I could go on and on the Internet in search information on Dr. Damon, he has done all this and hypnotists around the world are greatly in his debt – and especially with myself. Development hypnosis as a distinct profession does not produce itself and the credit goes mainly to the doc – as I call him, Dr. Dwight Damon I heard rightly that Dr. Dwight Damon is the founding father of hypnosis as a distinct profession.

Welcome to Doc Meeting pros free seminar program. Thank you for taking the time to call and be at the seminar, I bet things are really busy to you today at the headquarters of NGH.

Dr. Damon: They are but I'm still writing, I mean it was a good introduction, thank you. At that kind introduction Cal and I am not the sole founder – I'm one of the founders of the Guild. We were a group of men at the time, the funny thing is – the way back there were no women who are interested in our profession and if it was really a group of men in Boston, Massachusetts who decided the Journal. under the supervision of Dr. Rexford L. North. And there are some among us who are still active in the guild, Maurice Kershaw up in Canada, Dr. John Hughes outside Las Vegas and Arnold Levison, come to mind the rest of our small group unfortunately lost on the convention of hypnosis in the sky, one might say?

Cal: How did you arrive at, I a kind of systematic chronological type guys and I was wondering if you could give students here and the public, a background on how you came in hypnotism in the first place?

Mr. Damon: Sure, I'll be happy. Originally, when I was young, my parents owned a theatrical agency and I got to meet all sorts of different artists and I was intrigued by magic, like many young people are when they get their first set of Christmas magic and so on. But I had the privilege to meet professionals who were well known in the field. So I just gravity that, and when I was 12 or 13 years, I worked as a professional magician and do everything right and it does not hurt to have my family booking agency acts in entertainment, they certainly took care of things and I also presented to staff more in the Boston area, and of course I still need education as they did not get enough to go into show business.

I was in college in Boston and it was a while ago, and I went to a meeting Rush Alpha Phi Tau fraternity and I was walking along and I saw a few shows, he said: "Get real hypnosis Hypnotize Yourself and Others. I thought that "hypnotism real" and I had to buy a book a few years before, when I was in Christian Academy, which Leitner was produced on hypnotism. And I read the book at the beginning and used the book as my guide in trying to hypnotize the other students and faculty and I managed to a low degree.

I really do not understand that you could not learn a book and I am still of the opinion you can not learn from distance learning videos, etc.. I want hands on training. But when I saw this poster is a demonstration of free lectures and it just happens that way at this place that I was going. So I went and there was a gentleman who presented a demonstration lesson taught us how to hypnotize other people have made a little speech and said he was start a course in Boston. At that time the entire course of instruction has been ten lessons and the cost was $ 50 and $ 50 was much more money than now. I called home and talk to my father and told him that I wanted to take a course after school and he said 'What it? and I said "Well, it's just one of those things and psychology he said" No, what? "He knew me better I thought and I said: "This is a course in hypnotism and thought that would go well with what I had done with the magic …

Cal: You think more lines to stage hypnosis?

Dr. Damon: Yes, and he said ok and I provided the sum of 50.00 and took the course. And then we came out of the 10 lessons, when you graduate you are confident and competent, and it I used the line with our certified instructors – I want them to show graduates who are confident and competent. When we completed this course with Dr. North could hypnotize people, because we have been doing. The head of psychiatry at Mass General was class with me and there were a few other older colleagues who were professional people of various types. They were not interested in stage magic, hypnotism stage, but there were three of us were. So it became a part of my repertoire and then I do not know exactly seem to agree with Dr. North and I attended Boston College and the first thing you know, I worked at the center of hypnotism and we had a great center that includes an apartment and then the next thing you know I was working and living there and decided that it was more exciting than going to college.

Cal:

Wow.

Dr. Damon: I did that, and that's when we came to the Journal of Hypnotism and the Guild. At the time there was nothing of this kind and Harry Arons, who was a household name in New Jersey, editor and teacher in the area, said: You know a club like this does not always go to a magazine – you lose your cool port money. But it does borrow its mailing list related to ours and it was successful. He stayed with us for some time as associate editor and wrote a regular column, but like anything else, soon he was sorry, he gave us the list. When he saw that it was going to be a success when it split and split and began the American Association for the Advancement of Ethics Ethics hypnosis (AEH). He had a very good idea, he says that I will teach health care professionals authorized He then expanded, at the same time, there were other people doing just this type of instruction strictly. But hypnosis center in Boston, we have taught everyone to everything that was interested. In the early days of Guild, 95% of us were either stage hypnotists or simply people who were interested, you can tell fans they were interested in hypnotism and perhaps 5% had been or could be considered as professional hypnotherapist.

Cal: Mr. Damon can you give the public an idea of when that was? It was around 1950? 1951?

Dr. Damon: Exactly '49, '50 In this range, while keeping away from that. Course I was very young, I was about 5 years old at the time (laughs). But yes, it has been so long 57 years for be exact. In 1950, we started talking about the formation of the Guild. We do not know what we were going to call but to form an organization to this point. We do it formally in the spring of 1951, and we had already been holding regular meetings in Boston and has been number one chapter. Chapter number two was in New York, then it increased only from there. Over the years it has grown, and then Dr. North mysteriously disappeared and we still to date are not sure what happened to him, we heard all sorts of rumors and stories and so on and for those of us who were really active at the time – we went to other things, we had families to raise and we were either in college or study professions or businesses and the Guild all kinds of putts and we stayed in touch. But we have not really experienced any growth.

You want me to continue?

Cal: You hypnotized me here, I'm just in chapter two, and I'm still hanging the word …

Mr. Damon: Chapter Two, when I came out of Iowa, having been in the service and be in service was great to be a stage hypnotist, because everywhere I went, I did not need to have all the accessories and we ship everywhere entered, I was always asked to come to the NCO club or clubs and agents do a show and I was even paid for it – Which was unusual. So do USO shows where there are centers and they knew I was close. Thus, it was really good – I kept my hand in. Boot Camp we were in the afternoon of physical training have been used, they think that all these things you can do to beat each other, build team effort, this kind of thing …

Cal: Yes …

Mr. Damon: Someone came out and wanted to see the chaplain said Damon. Usually, this meant that there was someone in family who had died or something. Thus, has gone and the chaplain said: "I saw the show last night, we made a talent show in the big hangar there and of course I did hypnosis and said: "I saw the show last night, are you related to Dwight Damon in The National Guild and the Journal of hypnotism? and I said: "I'm Dwight Damon and he said" you're Dwight Damon? You changed some of my stuff, "and he told me his name and of course I had.

Cal: Wow.

Dr. Damon: Well, I think, this is certainly fortuitous, and he said: "I tell you, you should not be there to fight and all that and that education physical stuff. You can come here every afternoon and we could talk about hypnotism. And I thought it was OK with me. And so I Chaplain Assistant been appointed and that the only thing that I have helped and then he said: "You know, if you want to work with people in the office here, you can do in the evening, I let you use my office. The only catch is, I want to be here so I can see what you do. " And I said sure it is very well too. "We have so we had several cases, we had one test of physical education you need to pass – you must climb a rope 50 feet, you know, hand on hand. If you have never done this before it kind of impossible to learn on the spot, if you do not pass this particular test, then you went to the former company and they give you a few more weeks to try, or you're out …

Cal: This has been a remedial training eh?

Mr. Damon: Yeah, I guess they figured, you might have to abandon the ship or something. I know I've never climbed the rope afterwards. Our company has been invaluable at a time when he would give one more chance and he said "Why do not you hypnotize me? I said "sure". Then we went to the chaplains office this evening and I used direct suggestion, you know, "You'll get up in the morning and the first thing you think you going to climb that rope and you will go hand right hand and you're simply not a problem if you ride or if you go down "and I really built.

I woke the next morning and wanted to go right, then, if we have appointed a couple of fellows to keep an eye on him because we do not want him going there, when he was not supposed to go. When we went to the gym for Phys Ed, the drill sergeant says "bold Ok, you go first" and he went out, went up the rope, came down and went up and drill sergeant am really angry because he thought he had been joking all the time he could not climb the rope. Fortunately, the chaplain was there and everything squared away for the past. And the drill sergeant subsided and the chaplain went to the base commander and said he had a relationship with Life Magazine, and he wants them to come do a story this topic and the rope trick of modern India.

Cal:

Wow.

Mr. Damon: What would was a great break and the commander of the Coast Guard said today it would be too realistic carnival for the service. So we not had that break. Many interesting things happened that you have contacts and they are incredible that a person who had submitted articles for The Journal and yes I edited them, and he knew my name and it worked together. This was the beginning for me.

Cal: See I thought I heard all of your stories. This is news to me. Fine.

Mr. Damon is a story C.

Cal: Well, it's a really cool story. I really want to learn to ask questions about the big idea. I hear you speak and I want really help spread the word about it. What do you mean when you talk about the big idea?

Mr. Damon: Well since the years I have been saying that we must have a great idea of it, the establishment of a separate and distinct profession. I gone after being in the service, I returned to college, out in Davenport, Iowa, Chiropractic College to get my doctorate and went in practice. In those days, we have graduated, there were still States not authorized for chiropractors, maybe 3 or 4 – Louisiana, Massachusetts, New York may be another.

But it was a very difficult period, even though chiropractic has been very good place for many accepted years, it was still a turf war. Doctors do not want us in office. Then I got involved again in the edition in our newsletter for our State Chiropractic Association. But he gave me a chance to see what was going on in trying to establish the profession.

So when we decided to bring the guild and the building just a small group of people who were simply staying in touch and not really more Increasingly, we are now in the age of computers and Elsom Eldridge. It was the center of the achievements in Manchester, New Hampshire. Elsen was a childhood friend who learned a lot about magic and hypnotism to me that we were growing up. He took me to see his achievements Center and showed me their computer room and even if I was on the radio, I knew nothing about computers, but we could see the potential. We had lunch and we talked about, we said 'Wow', the Guild can use it to get people out and that's what we did.

Idea was necessary to establish this as a profession. We do not just want to be hypnotists stage, we have something to offer the public. I used hypnosis in my practice as a licensed chiropractor. I do not accept anyone outside because I had a busy practice, but Regular chiropractic for my patients, yes, indeed. "Oh you have agoraphobia? Oh, we'll take care of everything you're there.

If he was really a kind of fun to be able to use both. People in town, I found myself, as neither where I was tried to kill someone, so I do get a lot of patients coming in. But they all waited at first. "Wow, this is now a chiropractor and a hypnotist and remember, he used to be a magician, so they are a little weird there.

Our goal is to establish a separate profession and all of a Suddenly, I think you were Cal, Las Vegas and it struck me – we were already there, we had already set up this profession, we 've finally done it was not just admit it – but not sure. So when I said: We are now a profession …

Cal: Right …

Mr. Damon: Now we must build. Now, we must be professional in we do and how we dress and how we speak and we have to try as many of our people, who practice in professional practice and build profession. We are recognized today. I'll give you an example of why we can say that. There was a convention of psychologists, and a division leader Trent which is a committee or group dealing with hypnotherapy, Cal, you know?

Cal: Yes …

Mr. Damon The head of this group, although I will not mention his name, because what happens on the Internet. Well, he got up in New Orleans during their meeting and presented what we call the Master Plan, to erase what they called "Lay Hypnotists. And believe me, it was a master plan.

Unbenounced for him, many people who attended the meeting that psychologists and psychiatrists and licensed so, who are also members of the guild. He did not take very long to get a recording and a transcript of exactly what he had in mind for us in her plan.

We have therefore tried to enlist the help of other groups to help us fight against this. I remember calling AEH, the president at that time, Harry Arons, (it is no longer the president) and he said: "Well, I would like Dr. Damon help, but you know the thing is, I must hold a committee meeting and have members from all over the country and the good thing about The Guild is too belong to that, he said, You can take a decision and you can go for it and when you go for it, you'll probably everything. So we said, we do ourselves and we did. Recently I saw a match the ad on the Internet someone sent it to me, in which it is useless to try to get rid of them because they have more money, they have their power to the Union and they are fairly well established …

Cal: Oh …

Mr. Damon So we're not going to get rid of them, what we must do is to check whether the control, by the requirements for the types of education. So, you see they know we are here to stay – they recognize us as a business entity.

Cal: You know articles I wrote and conducted interviews on completely rejecting the label of "Lay Hypnotists. If you go to the dictionary, a dictionary that you want to "lay" means not trained. And a National Guild of Hypnotists, Hypnotists Certified Consulting Hypnotists and Hypnotherapists or, whatever label they use has received the training as much or more than your average "Professionals", a doctor or psychologist there, practicing hypnosis.

Mr. Damon: There is nothing uniquely qualifies any other health professional then being a hypnotist …

Cal: That's right …

Dr. Damon: I mean they can get a day and then they get a couple of days of discussion of hypnotism and that's all.

Cal: It correct.

Mr. Damon Maurice Kershaw has been teaching pre med and pre dental students in place in Canada for many years. An effective course, I believe, an introduction to hypnosis, but I do not know of anywhere else that does anything What type of training. So no, call us Lay Hypnotists is a misnomer. In your dreams, is what I say, insofar as they are concerned.

Cal: It's really hypnotists hobby …

Dr. Damon

Yes, …

Cal: I think of them as Hypnotists Lay.

Dr. Damon: And we do not have that many more fans, for some reason, I do not know, I guess …

Cal: Not in the guild anyway …

Mr. Damon Not great and something else is mentioned earlier, it was all men and the great thing really is the influx of women into the field. This is wonderful because the women seem to take for professional hypnotists and hypnotists consultation. Most women have a really good talent for it and I do not know the exact percentages of membership in the guild, but I would say maybe its 50% more. Probably more …

Cal: Yes probably. You know in most helping professions, as a few years ago it was shown that psychology, the change is really gone more women in schools is a graduate of psychology, counseling, social work, then the men. So this is just a natural thing that we would in the guild.

Mr. Damon: Well, it probably sounds sexist just to say they are better equipped for it, but I think that, by nature, a woman may be, has a unique talent, a natural born talent. God says: Whoa, you're there to feed people and help people and that goes with this we do.

Cal: Beautiful. Hey let me ask you something, Doc. As we are increasingly accepted, chiropractors they start off and time to establish itself as a profession and other professionals have begun to refer. Do you really believe that our profession can become as accepted as other health professions?

Dr. Damon: Yes I do. We look back and say, "Hey, wait a minute, there were not too many, many years ago that the dentist had cut hair and pull teeth in the same chair. Therefore, barber poles are red and white – meaning the blood to pull teeth. I do not know if it was the grandfather or grandfather, probably the grandfather in the current Mayo brothers, who was a doctor simply by the fact that he rode around cure people and take care of people when they were sick, so he began to be called, "Doc Mayo. If someone else wanted to learn to be a doctor in the days, he walks around the doc and if they learned to give birth, how to set bones and so on – and they became a doctor. Then he was right in the middle 1900s, early 1900s, probably 1918 I think it was that time when you could still go to evening classes to be an MD. It was not too long, and all had to grow as professionals. It's the same that we were growing, our education requirements grow with us.

Cal: So what kind of strategies that we have to put in place? I know we have a code of ethics and kind of … from there …

Mr. Damon: Well, we have a code of ethics and standards of practice. We have our own professional language which is very necessary. For example, now we chiropractors to certain period of time we do not diagnose and we have not used this term and that gave us this is not a cure – we were adaptation of patients. So we have our own language as consulting hypnotists we want to use. It's manly to keep us apart, to … of occupational health problems and using language that could be construed as medical terms which are in the DSM and we want So be careful not to use the psychological language, eg 'phobias'. And we have all our new graduates to receive this information, and Scott Giles has worked hard to present the various terms that could be used and we are eager for people to do. It means same thing, if a patient comes to us is actually a customer, and we do not necessarily diagnose, we help them target their problems or difficulties.

We suggest ways of doing things, we do not treat them, we do not prescribe solutions, we suggest means for them, because you know we are very proud to say: Well, all hypnosis is self-hypnosis. Well, if so, we act as guides to help that person to help achieve self-hypnosis to change what they want to change. That is what we must be careful, staying in line, coloring in the lines. And they say so why should be afraid of the other? I know there are people out there saying "oh yes I'll be able to what I want, we are binding ourselves by not doing what we want. " Well, I do not agree with that …

Cal: You know …

Mr. Damon: That's my opinion …

Cal: Because we do not diagnose, we do not say, consult a diagnosis has only one goal is to determine the treatment and for that they have to say "Hey here some something is wrong with you medically and since we do not say that there is something wrong medically then I was convinced over the years to move away from the therapists term. Because this term means therapists there something wrong with you and you need therapy. Really, we more an educator or consultant is that correct?

Dr. Damon: That's really why I like the Council Hypnotists term and I know first of all, it is very difficult for people to accept this line when I submitted to the Convention a couple of years. Consulting Hypnotists But, this is without prejudice to anyone, there's nobody out there that can say "Oh you should not use this" and last year in Ontario, Canada psychotherapist to legislate people to be hypnotherapists. And hypnotherapists would not waive the right to be a hypnotherapists but it seemed that there would be passed laws, so we had to ask the Union Scot Giles jumped on his white horse to go to battle again and we had lots of help from the OPEIU, which is the mother we belong Union and the Federation of Hypnotists nations, which is our union, and the only union is chartered to cover the entire country and Canada. They successfully put a damper on all this by getting lobbyists to work on it for us.

Cal: Just one second, how can learn hypnotist Also, I am a member of the Union, how hypnotists can learn more about the Union? Is there a website? Is there a link on the website of the Guild?

Mr. Damon: Yes, well the best way is, you now see that you get the stuff in the Internet and you know me. I told you that I a radio operator and you said I was a radio operator, who was at the time of Marconi, we have not had any Internet and so on. We had just discovered how to send messages by radio, but we have, and as we speak, I'll just look for the union address. They can communicate with the union and the union secretary will be happy to do so.

Cal:

Yes, yes.

Dr. Damon: I have here now. His e-mail – and that Sharon Morris, who is our Secretary-Treasurer, is hypnounionsec@aol.com and is secretary-treasurer for the National Federation of Hypnotists, OPEIU Local 104 AFL-CLC CIL How's that for a mouthful?

Cal: It's like alphabet soup here!

Mr. Damon: But hypnounionsec@aol.com or they can call 603-424-2136 and Sharon will be happy to send information about the Union. The more people we can get the best in the Union because the union and believe me, I have to give credit where credit is due, and they went through. I think in Canada probably $ 15,000 dollars or more, we had to spend for a lobbyist up there, a professional lobbyist there and they had crossed for us and supports us financially and they stick to us. And being a member of a union is really good because you can use the union bug Union or a little logo they have, you are a union member and union representatives, as with trade union members, and we have some of our consulting hypnotists who have established workshops, group seminars for stress / smoking / weight through health plans of the Union. Union health plans pay for it. Thus you can get your money back easily by simply using a little imagination.

Cal: Look by the way, I work with Scot Giles to a conference like this to meet the pros. He will talk about Christianity and hypnosis, and he is a reverend and reverend real.

Mr. Damon: A true one?

Cal: A true. No Postcard them, Reverend Mail Order .

Dr. Damon: he did not do all this because he is a certified counselor and a veritable Minister. He did not do all the things he does for our profession, he can practice in any case, it is licensed and the Lord does not relate his duty to other hypnotists. So the thing is he does, he is not paid to do.

It does so because he believes in what we do and it certainly deserves much credit and when I call it the killer or the angel of vengeance, it only because it is really fair and his hackles when someone tries to hurt us. This is the kind of people you need. We are lucky that I have people like you, Cal. I mean I can go through a list and all they have to do is go through our list of Advisory Board and they can see people who are there to work without pay. I mean they are all volunteers, and the Office of the President, I have people I can count on to give me good backup, and information and good information is very important.

Cal: You know it's something I think is so powerful that you have to put up. The National Guild of Hypnotists is a leadership team together, and I honored to be part of the Advisory Board and the Ethics Committee and just to be part of this great dream that is the UN folding before us.

Mr. Damon: Well, and there it is, we people in the industry, people in the Council Committee certification, we do because we believe in what we do. At the same time I know it is sometimes the feeling of the Good Ole Boys run everything. If this was not the good old boys, as they refer to us, you may not Cal, but for me. If it were not for boys good old days, we would not be where we are today, because we have not given up, we continued and we believe that.

At the same time we have a lot of people coming in, we have a young generation, and I do not want to name names because I might miss the people, but I'll give you an example. John Weiry in Pittsburgh, he has a good friend there, I do not remember his name, so I would not have talked to John. But somehow these young people and they are young by comparison, are impatient and they are working for the occupation and they are people we need, we need, especially the younger ones to come, because we're not all going to be here always. And we want the reader that we have established will continue and I'm looking on my staff and the Guild for the younger generation is coming. For example: Executive Director and my people say and believe in nepotism, yes, I do. My daughter is executive director of the guild, Melody and she grew up in the field of hypnotism. She grew up knowing what we could do with it, how it could be used as a powerful tool for your family and help Other – As someone who has much knowledge and experience, why not?

I am very, very lucky that I personnel who are young and interested in the internet and they can come fix my computer when it does not work well and tell me what I am doing wrong, to go Internet to see Cal Banyan websites and so on and that's what we need, and secondly we need people who had years of experience, because it is they who govern us are still in the right direction.

Cal: I've always been happy to work with the office there the Guild. part was always very, very useful for us and really Melody team. Let me ask something, what would you say we reach out to all hypnotists everywhere, how can all help to build hypnotists this occupation?

Mr. Damon: Being professional …

Cal: There you go …

Mr. Damon: I mean, it's very, very simple. Get away from things that go, I mean, you're talking to a man who was a man show his whole life and when I say, leave the stage is a little hard for me to say. But if we are going to be professional and recognize that we have to break the image that we have, I think we have mentioned on my next editorial in the Journal of Hypnotism, and we got out of that mark, the pendulum I always get it wrong and do not want when I say that the dog barks and sometimes I say clicking chicken, but it is supposed to be a slam duck syndrome. You know this picture, I can never remove. I tell you the truth, I do not know if it's a duck or a chicken because I have never in my years of experience, never seen anyone do it on stage or show or anything.

Cal: Now, say that we should put an end to the phase hypnotism here or what?

Dr. Damon: That we what?

Cal: that we should stop at every stage hypnotism or what?

Dr. Damon: No, we can not do that. I mean let's face it, the guild was formed by stage hypnotists and it will never happen anyway, you can not get rid of. It's fun for people and if it is done. There are people who are shows X-rated and R-rated, we should get rid of them because these shows are a source of embarrassment. But on the other hand, I remember a customer to come to me once when I was still seeing clients and he was a young man, college age and one of my questions that I standards fear most on consumption: "Have you been hypnotized before? No, have you ever seen someone hypnotized before? "Oh yes, I saw this and that at the nightclub last week and he said that's what made me think to come to you because it would take the exam Bar and wife followed him and he had succeeded and failed and he would take it back and if he was a little worried about that, it takes a little assistance. He thought well of hypnotism might help. Well I said, I knew that the hypnotist, he had seen, I said 'What do you think Performing? He said: "Well it was disgusting, yes, it was funny, but it takes just disgusting …

Cal: Right …

Dr. Damon: That particular hypnotist, I must admit it gets the laughs, he gets the jobs, but it really demeaning to those involved in the issue.

Cal: You can be an interpreter and be very professional and represent the area well, is not it?

Mr. Damon: Oh, absolutely, we have a lot of hypnotists, Jerry Valley as they do a very good show, Tommy Vee, Ormond McGill has done a very good show career. We have a lot of them and the kind we still stage hypnotists honor our agreement. We have three shows on Friday night and it is a chance for people to have fun and laughter and we expect for one, and we never someone who interferes with the profession and we had people we know or top professional.

Cal: You know what, it's a good time to kind of segue into what is to come. You know I was a member of the NGH since 1996 and I never ever missed a convention. When I was new, I'm just going to swallow the information I can and now I am privileged to teach and give workshops and why do not you tell everyone why the Convention and this year it's so special? Its 21! It is grown, right? Every year is special right?

Damon M.: Yes. Her 21 years and the Convention is the world's largest and most friendly and there is no way around this, someone which had not been to our conference – it is really more of the world. We have anywhere between 1500 – 1700 participants and it is more lovable. All the world is nice. You can go anywhere and even approach the big names like Cal Banyan …

Cal: Oh …

Dr. Damon: And he will stop and talk with you. I like talking to people and I recently found people do not come to talk to me as much, I do not know, maybe I do not look for friends or something. This year at the convention, I'll see how many people I shake hands and learn to knowing. When we had less than a thousand members and just here I am in the office and Melody worked in my chiropractic office, and I even answered the phone, not only for my chiropractic patients, but also a member of the Guild and we had some hundreds of figures, so I know everybody. This year we will honor one of our members who have been members for 20 years or more. It's almost a hundred members …

Cal:

Wow …

Mr. Damon: So, it is a time to be a member of the guild. We have something like 200 workshops and seminars and we have a wonderful faculty member, perhaps its 200 faculty members, I do not know. All our work of the Convention is in beautiful Florida office, Elsen Eldridge and John are there, do all the work. They know all the numbers, so I'm sitting here, and keep them going. With 200 seminars and 170 speakers, that thing. I'll get the numbers right after a while. Now you see why I was not the CCA.

Cal: I read the other day and it is 181 workshops included in the price of a convention and you guys have just released a downloadable version of the Convention in the catalog and I have it on www.calbanyan.com if someone wants to download and watch everything that happens …

Mr. Damon Well that's fine and if they are not a member of the guild, and they go to www.calbanyan.com o Internet and they want a hard copy of this beautiful catalog, they can contact us and we'll send them one. They just come off the press and they be in the mail today or Monday …

Cal: A copy? It's so last century …

Dr. Damon: Oh, no, no, no. Now, you talk like some of my colleagues. They say why do not you just put it on the Internet. Cal, I do not read a book on my computer, I do not print as many leaves Fly to print a catalog, I want to fit in my hand to take with me if I go down to the coffee I want to take with me if I'm on a plane, I want with me and we had this discussion today, how much money it costs to put on the Journal and The Hypno-Gram and our video catalog DVD library and our resources guide. We have it all on the internet too, but it is nice to have it with you and if you know you're from the generation, we just watch it on the computer …

Cal: You know what, I want to have in both directions. I want to have it on the computer and I want to have it because I still have every journal I've ever received by the All post and Hypno-Gram and I collect them and they become resources to support and I can take with me. I am not in a way or the other, I think it is good that you involved in this century and providing the Internet and always gives hard copies.

Mr. Damon: We're trying to do both. We try to keep up with technology at the same time we try to follow the segment of the population and you want the hard copy as well. The Guild has accomplished many firsts, I mean there's no way around that. I mean, we have established the profession. We are the first ones who really needed the size of training because we figure a little later when we are recognized as a profession and a license they going to say oh you have to education continue to have, every profession needs. We are the first to truly establish a program quo certified instructors, we are the first to rent a video library, I do not think anyone else has this, I think someone else has now.

We print two magazines, we have the consumer magazine, I think we were the first to obtain liability insurance occupation – perhaps not but I know it took me 3 or 4 years to find a company that would provide everyone. We are the only union, the union hypnotist who is approved for all states. We just do things that we have had this chance. We have people working and doing all this and I believe in the fact we can really be a recognized profession and I hope it will happen, I know it will happen in my life. I want this to happen, where when we really accepted and all these things that people say "we need more education, we need the college "Things will come later. Currently, we have what we have and we can build on what we have and one day they will say:" I want to be a hypnotist consultation – and I think I'm going to get my degree and Lost it. So people do not need to go buy a college degree, for they have a title and I do not think it's necessary, what you have to do is what you are doing good and people are not so impressed a doctor or teacher or whatever you do all the initials behind your name. Never mind, the results are what matter.

Cal: The best credentials you can have is to have contributed to the father, mother, sister, brother, cousin or friend.

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True …

Cal: That's true …

Dr. Damon Helping ordinary people of all ordinary day everyday problems is what I mean.

Cal: Exactly. Exactly.

Mr. Damon: I mean we do not have miracles. It's quite miraculous. When you go to the hospital, and I had that before, and you have someone who is dying of cancer and they were directly on the drip-IV, just to sleep and try to keep you comfortable and conditioning them so that you can use hypnosis with them and get them out of pain for some time and morphine is touch, I mean it a success and I know that this can be done. Because I've been there and done it and I did it with love …

Cal: And it really adds to the quality of life in recent months or weeks, because you can really reduce the amount of drugs needed to control pain. Is that correct?

Mr. Damon: Yes it's true, and it should not be, it will not cure cancer, but if you can help to relieve the side effects of chemotherapy and radiotherapy, which is a wonderful thing you can do. That's why we had some many nurses entering the field. We have many nurses …

Cal: In the field of psychology, which is my background, there is something called hypothesis of stress and diathesis who says different forms of stress can contribute to many diseases, it is not out of question to all this work done hypnosis to relieve stress, can help others, the doctor and help the body heal itself. Is that correct?

Mr. Damon: Absolutely. I remember going into the hospital, my first wife died of cancer and that I there. I used to go home for maybe four hours of sleep after midnight and I remember going back in one morning, and Chargers came and said, I'm so glad you're back to the doctor. I do not know what you do, because we must do all that thing you do, because morphine Lois does no good and she said that we are so glad you're back. I am sure they understand finally what we do and what it is. They say WoW is a good thing.

We had Maggie, we had a sign in her room all day and in every sense, and I'm getting better Hooray! And I got a kick out of it because she had a little Dominican and had come and relax and editors sick as she was, she said that every day in every way, I'm getting better and had a smile and one of the oncology nurses on the floor said, "Can we use? I said "Oh yes, of course you can, I did not come with this speech. I said: "You want me to runoff other computer on the go for you? She said: "I wish you would. 'So, you know …

Cal: There is a story like that or more, with all the hypnotists is there working and helping people. It's really what it is.

Mr. Damon: What a wonderful tool we have. Not only help others, but our families. I tried the personal experiences of hypnosis today, which is a good magazine. I hope you will agree with me that, I think that is a GOOD Magazine to the general public because cover, because he has a history of a hospital in Florida, he celebrated birth of a child in Iran, all sorts of wonderful stories. Hypnosis Iraq, Hypnosis in Botswana, you know, anyone can read this and say there is something about it. Not only bring people and make them bark like dogs …

Cal: Yes it's also a great little opener when you go see your doctor to leave. Other Professional …

Mr. Damon: I'm sure you know who Johnny Appleseed, he went into the country planting apple trees throughout the country, it started right here in New England by road. We do it all, if we go to the hospital for anything, we'll put them in each waiting room. The doctors' offices, dentist offices and libraries love to have a supply. I'm going to clean, which I gave one to each of the girls who work there and they said you can leave some for other customers. I said absolutely.

When we went to Solid Gold this year in Tuscany Las Vegas, we record clerk, and one of the others looked at us said, "Can I have one too? Well after I pass through the six people across the front of the counter all the aircraft, I said do not read them now – they all play – I do you do not want to turn you know, and they they like. They asked for more for this and that they enjoy the stories and they love what we do.

Cal: How people can get a copy of it?

Dr. Damon contact the Guild, we are fortunate to have a few thousands, they can buy some, they are very reasonably priced and we left a space nice outside coverage. Where you can take a video label is the size and print on your computer and you can get a free ad, so when you distribute, the people inside who have paid their ad, get exposure all over the world and you get exposure to buy in bulk and $ 4.95 for the magazine and you can buy a quality for a dollar each. It's pretty cheap advertising really.

Cal: Hey, if I could just change the subject a bit if I can because I want to offer the chance to ask some questions and the answers that would be ok for you?

Mr. Damon: Well, yes, you've exceeded your 45 minutes, is it okay with you?

Cal: You know what? I tend to go more than an hour anyway.

Mr. Damon Well have fun.

Cal: Let's see, I sent an e-mail, from Linda and she is one of our yahoo groups! And she says: Thank you Cal, offer to do, I'm not available for the call. My question is for Mr. Damon, all of us actually said it, is the impact of the struggling economy may have on our profession, perhaps more than most economic areas do not feel healthy but I'm believe that most rural feel. I live in Maine, which is in real trouble. Not only do I live in Maine I live in a very rural area. What are your feelings about how to deal with the doctor?

Mr. Damon: Well I live in New Hampshire and we're neighbors with Maine. See I think the media are behind this thing, I think they give suggestions for the negative public, they are creating this problem economy. They dismiss them if they have started to give positive suggestions, I think we could turn around. The government said: Hey things are improving, then they would help, but I mentioned in one of my columns, it may be a future or already accrued in the Hypno-Gram A about different people I talked to said that they noticed that things such as ______, Jacobs specializes in sensation smoking, I think it was in the last Hypno-Gram. He told me he was in Brooklyn, New York. He makes his own publicity and it works right out of his apartment and has a fantastic customer, because he has built an excellent reputation not because he is smoking, but for all, but he is best known for smoking. He said many times now, it make people arrive, they said you know I like to smoke and I do not want to up, but I can not afford more, so they prefer to pay these fees onetime stop smoking and save money buying a pack a day. I do not know how much cigarettes cost, but I think there are many now. You know that I found in Florida and John Dubesky again he was seeing people who want a more positive attitude, you know he is there with many retirees. And he said they have to worry and started coming to him – a lot of people. Mc ISSIC said that people know that you are concerned and get the mental stress about their bills and mortgages and so on and they just want a reduction of stress, you know, there is work there. Being in the wilderness Maine, you may have to adjust your price a little bit, but why not, and remember – Maine you can always barter. This is the way to keep things. And the family cut her hair because the hairdresser wants to quit smoking and it will tell others: "Yes I went to Linda, it was Linda …

Cal: Yes it will be Linda …

Mr. Damon: … and she went to Linda and she stopped smoking. Wow, could you help George "and barter is a good system and when times are hard, when people think times are tough when they are really …

Cal: That's right. What we remember people buy solutions, and listen to what people are complaining, then Hypnosis can be a viable alternative. For example, I was in a facility the other day, and they said that Cal are you doing? I am a hypnotist and that's all you have to do and they start to ask, you can help me with this? Can you help me with this? and this man happens to be a sales manager for a car dealership, and asked my people can help you sell more, sure it's easy, it happens all the time and I gave him some stories about what I had done with customers and is very enthusiastic …

Mr. Damon Good. I did the same thing I went out and bought a new car ….

Cal: Good for you …

Mr. Damon: I went out and made a very happy seller …

Cal: Okay. What I want to do now is open the line and see if someone has a question. For you to just hit * 6, you can mute and you can ask a question to Mr. Damon.

Maybe everyone left, because we talked too long …

Dr. Damon: They have all gone home, it everything. Well, we've had a good time. They can tune in later. Well do you have other questions?

Cal: Well yes, I have one and from something like SMS here and they want to know …

Mr. Damon: A type SMS …

Cal: One of those things, like a little message up on my computer and everything, and the listener wants to know: where is the Convention?

Dr. Damon: I'm glad that this person has asked, because it is no secret at all, its Marlborough, Massachusetts. It's The Royal Plaza Hotel & Conference Center, and now we have sold all the rooms, however, just at the end of the alley, probably just a short walk in the building trade, its just a little further, there is a hotel, we have a shuttle service to 4 or 5 other hotels nearby. When I said a shuttle service, there is a shuttle service professional who regularly organizes all day until the last of things that go on the evening, people are at other nearby motels, which by the way, giving the same rate for hotel rooms, our hotel room, I will not quote a price because I am not sure of these things, they let me know, but I forgot. I think it is less than $ 100, maybe $ 90-something, perhaps its $ 103, you can buy anyway, they are very reasonable, hotels are about the same rate, because we have a large crowd from Marlborough, Massachusetts. If they come across the distance they can fly through Boston and take a shuttle flight in Boston and Providence, rent a car, take a shuttle, they may come into Hartford and rent a car or take a shuttle. It is easy to access and there are many motels and plenty of places to eat. Just off shore, sometimes people want to leave the hotel for a short time, you do not need a car because there is a shopping center adjacent to 3-4 restaurants, I think you've been there for meetings and stuff …

Cal: Yes …

Mr. Damon: a steak house or another it is and if it's just an easy wonderful.

Cal: It went really well for us and I want to remind the 5-star PATHers there and all graduates Banyan, that night, the Thursday before the conference, we have the Annual Meeting and Awards Ceremony as we recognize 5-PATHers that contribute to profession and the growth of 5-PATH ® and ™ 7-Path. So make sure you there a day early.

For anyone listening, I want to tell them about the workshops that I will do. There will be an advanced hypnosis workshop for weight loss, go beyond the script for maximum results and also I am an insider's tip to a growing practice, where I talk about the star model and multiple streams of income is so that if you are not make as much money as you want, you can make more money and if you want to go from part time to full time – I'll show you how. Mr. Damon, why do not you wrap?

Mr. Damon: Ok I'm fine and by the way thank you for your contribution to our student kits, your information about how stars and is a valuable addition to our training materials. I just want to tell people, I hope they're going, what they should do is use their incentive scheme ESP, you see the government gives them and use that and Split with your husband or your wife and use your half to come to the Convention …

Cal: Excellent idea …

Mr. Damon: You would be happy you actually did and I wish I had more people will go to the Convention. Come and introduce himself – I would meet people, I would like to know who they are and where they come from and you know, we can just say hello, if they have questions they can ask me I'm here and I'm available. I want to thank you Cal, for inviting me to your show on your program and it was really fun and I hope we have given much information to people on there.

Cal: I think we've really done. Thank you Dr. Damon. Thank you for your leadership in the profession. Thank you for being on the show, thanks everyone for coming to listen live right now and also to all those who by downloading this on www.hypnosis.org or www.calbanyan.com. I would like to invite all our listeners to visit all the sites of my main www.hypnosis.org ; www.calbanyan.com and www.hypnosiscenter.com .

That's what this is Cal Banyan, signing off!

About the Author

I first became interested in hypnosis as a child, when listening to my grandmother tell me stories about her brother, my Uncle Ward who was a hypnotist. That turned out to be the beginning of a lifelong interest in psychology, philosophy and theology, which has resulted in my professional career in hypnosis and hypnotherapy.

Cal Banyan, MA, BCH, CI, FNGH. OOB